i think the debate last night was more important to mitt romney than barack obama. i don't know how much this really changes the landscape, because, look, this race is very competitive. if you look at the eight battleground states, depending on the polls president obama is winning at all of them, but the margins are pretty close. i think the other thing that the debates could do for democrats and the president, and also for the voters, for our side, too, it signals that the game is on, and i think you will see much more enthusiasm. people talk about the enthusiasm gap. the polling for nbc news and "the wall street journal" -- >> so you are the conspiracy -- the conspirators on the left wing polling -- >> barack obama is ahead by 50 points among latinos, but their enthusiasm was less than in 2008. that was another aspect of last night. >> glen, my thinking had been, while it was mathematically possible for romney to get to 270 electoral votes without ohio, michigan, pennsylvania, that was like a three- or four- cushion shot in pool. is ohio what we should be looking